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Problems follow land purchase

February 22, 2013

The Trumbull Metropolitan Housing Authority’s pursuit of senior housing on Parkman Road draws into question the environmental report that prevented Warren City Schools from constructing a new......

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FairandEqual

Feb-25-13 1:26 PM

The real estate transaction is contingent upon TMHA getting tax credits. So NW residents, let's make sure that the State of Ohio knows that this "project" is NOT welcome, and the State denies TMHA the tax credits!!

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FairandEqual

Feb-24-13 7:08 PM

A TMHA housing project is NOT welcome on the NW side of Warren. TMHA's Tod complex was "supposed" to be just for senior citizens, but when TMHA couldn't fill it, they allowed drug handicapped people to move in there. The same thing would happen on the NW project, and we DON'T want it!!

Furthermore, the BOE couldn't cost effectively build on the Parkman Rd swamp, so how can TMHA? This land transfer from BOE to TMHA SMELLS of corruptness!

TMHA has turned EVERY one of their projects into a haven for drugs. They deteriorate the property values whereever they go. NW residents need to petition the State of Ohio to DENY tax credits to TMHA, and put a stop to this UNWANTED influence on one of the few remaining good neighborhoods in Warren!!

Warren City Council has kept this whole project hush hush. NW residents have not been informed and deserve better from Council, who is trying to slip this one through unnoticed. Unite west-siders and deny this scurge in our neighborhood!

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reader

Feb-23-13 10:30 PM

Call me silly here, but why would TMHA want to continue with the idea of building on wetlands? Even for tax credits? And why would no one on Warren's CC question the proposal? When a person is elected to CC or a board of education, does he/she receive an official rubber stamp and told to have at it?

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FairandEqual

Feb-23-13 4:36 PM

The real estate transaction is contingent upon TMHA getting tax credits. So NW residents, let's make sure that the State of Ohio knows that this "project" is NOT welcome, and the State denies TMHA the tax credits!!

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nativio289

Feb-23-13 1:55 PM

jtoday--- This is typical trib. They have a few real reporters who are overworked. They hire new reporters at MINIMUM WAGE and cannot keep them. So they cover issues like this on the opinion page...

And they will take people to task in an editorial in ways they never do or did with straight reporting. One would think that this wetlands issue would have necessitated constant coverage and a drumbeat like this paper does with the Liberty Schools or the Port Authority...

I mean, how many of the Warren BoE members have run for reelection since the wetlands were bought with nary a peep from this paper? Seems this is an issue they should remind people of every time one of those people tries to get another term.

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nativio289

Feb-23-13 1:50 PM

There is a need for senior housing in this area. Gone are the days where all of these retired folks are able to cash out to Florida or "down south"... That financial mobility is gone, perhaps not for folks retiring in the next few years, but definitely for those leaving the work fore over the next ten years plus.

Clean, safe living for older people who may living on a monthly stipend or pension of not that much. Needs to be in an area where they can find public transportation to shopping and doctors and recreation.

But TMHA seemingly has no idea how to do this. Not that this is there fault... Honestly, this area is not one that is friendly to older folks who really have no business driving or cannot drive.

There really should be a program to move older people to bigger cities. Can you imagine what the driving conditions are going to be like over the next twenty years as these "Baby Boomers" keep trying to drive? Genocide on the road!

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jtoday

Feb-23-13 9:54 AM

ResistanceIsFertile I understand. The problem is that the Tribune continually writes opinion pieces with questions that they could easily get answered. Wouldn't it be more productive to get the facts and then express an opinion for or against.

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ResistanceIsFertile

Feb-22-13 8:21 PM

jtoday this is an editorial not a news article. If you don't know the difference, google it.

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jtoday

Feb-22-13 6:10 PM

I don't have an opinion about this project but I do have an opinion about this editorial.

This editorial asks a lot of questions. Couldn't they have made a few phone calls and received some answers to these questions? How can you form an opinion without some facts? The answers might actually support there implied opinion but how would they or any of us know.

This isn't they first time I have read a Tribune editorial that asked questions that could easily have been answered.

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reader

Feb-22-13 3:47 PM

Several cities have viable senior citizen complexes--Strongsville, Brookpark, etc. They have activities, transportation, and a well organized process to live there. They are only senior citizen complexes. That is it. We are missing this opportunity here in Warren because of how the facilities are run. Short sightedness in management maybe? We get back to that issue of quality control.

Do you think if this were to truly be a senior citizen complex that it would be built in wetlands? Why not rebuild it where the other one is being torn down? That land will end up sitting like all the other vacant properties in Warren.

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FairandEqual

Feb-22-13 3:02 PM

TMHA - You want to build a low income housing project? Build it in a low income area, like perhaps the shovel-ready vacant land where the projects were torn down by the old Western Reserve school.

Us NW residents do NOT want this type of destructive development in our neighborhood!!

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FairandEqual

Feb-22-13 2:57 PM

A TMHA housing project is NOT welcome on the NW side of Warren. TMHA's Riverside complex was "supposed" to be just for sneior citizens, but when TMHA couldn't fill it, they allowed drug handicapped people to move in there. The same thing would happen on the NW project, and we DON'T want it!!

Furthermore, the BOE couldn't cost effectively build on the Parkman Rd property, so how can TMHA? This land transfer from BOE to TMHA SMELLS of corruptness!

TMHA has turned EVERY one of their projects into a haven for drugs. They deteriorate the property values whereever they go. NW residents need to petition the State of Ohio to DENY tax credits to TMHA, and put a stop to this UNWANTED influence on one of the few remaining good neighborhoods in Warren!!

Warren City Council has kept this whole project hush hush. NW residents have not been informed and deserve better from Council, who is trying to slip this one through unnoticed. Unite west-siders and deny this scurge in our neighborho

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Billdog

Feb-22-13 11:44 AM

They receive gooberment funds, but they are NOT a gooberment agency.

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reader

Feb-22-13 11:30 AM

You brought up a good point so I went to YWCA funding with google. The YWCA is heavily into governmental funding with several agencies. As a matter if fact, several agencies. So taxpayer money is being used. But this editorial is about TMHA and that land situation. So I will leave this thread on the YW now.

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Billdog

Feb-22-13 11:02 AM

Neither is UnitedWay.

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Billdog

Feb-22-13 11:02 AM

Building the apartments taxpayer money is involved. As an agency they are NOT a gooberment agency.

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reader

Feb-22-13 10:52 AM

Do they (YWCA) not get money from the United Way and other agencies? I don't know. I would suspect there is funding coming in there. I can't believe that the YWCA as it exists today would be able to carry its own weight financially. And to build apartments where the pool was? It costs thousands of dollars. Thousands. Exactly where does that money come from? I strongly suspect taxpayer money is involved there somewhere.

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Billdog

Feb-22-13 9:57 AM

Well I agree that the YWCA needs looked into but they are NOT a gooberment agency. They are actually a Christian agency. Maybe somebody should tell God.

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reader

Feb-22-13 9:52 AM

Yes, let's do question current business practices of TC officials. When you are done with this particular business practice with the wetlands, let's move over to the situation at the YWCA. One blogger mentioned they thought a person had to buy a seat of the board there. I don't know if that is true. If it is, it is a serious concern of this taxpayer. Having the only qualification to be on a board is that you have enough money "to buy" a seat on the board doesn't mean that person would be truly qualified to run this organization. YEs, let's do question current practices of TC officials.

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reader

Feb-22-13 9:44 AM

Finally. an editorial comment concerning this wetlands apartment situation with TMHA. As to "serious quality control"... before TMHA even approached Warren CC concerning the purchase and/or construction, someone should have done his/her homework. The whole wetlands issue has prevented Warren City Schools from building a middle school there. What makes TMHA think they can build there. Even if they did go ahead with this endeavor, did they not think that there would be construction problems during and after the apartments were built? My understanding of real estate sales is that there is to be full disclosure. Would Warren City Schools be more financially responsible after the structure is built. I didn't see in any of the previous articles where the wetlands issue was even mentioned. What? Did someone think that it would be sold for a loss and their hands would be clean?

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Billdog

Feb-22-13 9:32 AM

These prices per unit build a nice house on a lot in Howland, Liberty, Cortland or other better communities. WTH is wrong with our gooberment? It appears to me that there is need for serious auditing, quality control, and questioning of the current business practices of Trumbull County officials.

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